She Was Supposed to Quit the Gym After One Month. That Was 13 Years Ago.

Lissa Markwardt was Kenny’s first client — her, Jenn, and the dog, in a tiny room, being told to jump rope whether she liked it or not. She planned to stay for one month. That was 13 years ago.

This year she skied 65 days, tried para-gliding, and is still saying yes to every adventure that shows up. She also spent 30 years in career development, watched Kenny flounder through graphic design and physical therapy and accounting before it all clicked, and never once told him to play it safe.

This conversation is about what it takes to keep saying yes as you get older, why most people stay stuck in jobs they hate, and how a second-grade PE teacher named Mr. Armstrong changed the trajectory of her entire life.

One of the warmest episodes in the library.

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